Re: [Fwd: Death driver jail term criticised]



Tony Raven wrote:
Alan Braggins wrote on 30/06/2007 16:50 +0100:
In article <kYCdnapFtpQm-BvbnZ2dnUVZ8tWnnZ2d@xxxxxxxxx>, Tony Raven wrote:
Simon Brooke wrote on 30/06/2007 14:44 +0100:
Prison is only
justified in so far as it either rehabilitates the offender, or protects
the public.
You forgot prison "pour encourager les autres.

Arguably that's protecting the public from those who would have committed
the crime if they weren't deterred by the thought of the prison sentence.
At least that's the intention, and if it doesn't work, I don't think
"pour encourager les autres" does justify prison.

Hypothetical. If crossing a red light carried an automatic prison sentence instead of an FPN would you be more, the same or less likely to cross a red light?


People consider the punishment when crossing a red light because they figure there is a reasonable chance of getting caught and hence a severe punishment has a strong deterrent effect. The same is true to a certain extent of drink driving.

However people do not expect to kill someone when they drink drive and hence are much less deterred by even a very severe punishment.

There was an Open University program that illustrated a similar point by stating that capital punishment would have a huge deterrent effect on illegal parking but the deterrent effect on murder was much less clear mainly because murders do not expect to be caught.
.



Relevant Pages

  • Re: Two years for murder
    ... IMO. ... OP also gave the BBC reference to the 4 year prison sentence. ... Hence the Sun's campaigning for real sentences probably has the effect of reducing the deterrent effect and increasing crime. ...
    (uk.legal)
  • Re: Matthew Parris apologises
    ... If people are sentenced to say six years in prison then they should ... in order to increase the deterrent effect. ... If the Police actually caught more criminals rather than spending all ... effective in reducing crime. ...
    (uk.rec.cycling)
  • Re: Matthew Parris apologises
    ... If people are sentenced to say six years in prison then they should ... in order to increase the deterrent effect. ... Normally when people present the argument that prisoners should serve the full sentence they really mean that they think that sentences are too short. ... However the UK already has one of largest per capita prison populations in Europe and there is very little evidence that it is effective in reducing crime. ...
    (uk.rec.cycling)
  • Re: [Fwd: Death driver jail term criticised]
    ... justified in so far as it either rehabilitates the offender, or protects ... You forgot prison "pour encourager les autres. ...
    (uk.rec.cycling)
  • Re: Cyclist killer sentence
    ... You have to think about what prison is for. ... One purpose of a long sentence is to deter people ... Death is a common punishment for dangerous driving so the deterrent effect ... A prison sentence does however convey the impression that the crime is taken ...
    (uk.rec.cycling)